Comments on: El Coyote Owner Apologizes For Prop. 8 Contribution; Boycott Looms

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By: Sam Page

Sam Page — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:03:20 +0000

@an american: what exactly “feels AMAZING” about boycotting, can you help me understand that?

By: an american

an american — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:37:09 +0000

i’ve been boycotting since november, and it feels AMAZING.

it’s my right as an american to spend my money anywhere i please.

if anyone has a problem with me NOT spending my “gay” cash el coyote, or el pollo in silver lake …. THAT’S JUST TOO DAMN BAD. GET OVER IT.

let these words of wisdom cook in your brain for a while:

“religious zombies harbor the fears and insecurities of the UNEDUCATED”.

By: Jonny Boy

Jonny Boy — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:25:29 +0000

The gay activists are so insanely hypocritical it’s hilarious. They scream out in hate (AGAINST HATE!!) and bigotry towards those that don’t support their views and way of life. Boy, there is no way they’ll be getting any support from me or my family. Try to bully people into voting your way will guarantee I’ll vote for the opposition.

By: Fred

Fred — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:35:52 +0000

So this means that I being for Prop 8 should now investigate any business that has an employee that made a contribution against the proposition, I should boycott it. I never thought of that kind of hatred before.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:42:47 +0000

Actually It may work out well if can get the court to overturn the election then we can have them overturn one more and install John Mccain as president

By: mananen

mananen — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:23:28 +0000

Let me get this straight. Marjorie is one of 89 employees. This was enough to demonstrate, boycott, harass customers and that one employee. So the standard is that if 1/89 of a business’s employees voted for Prop 8, you will do these things to that business.
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Given this 1/89 standard you set with El Coyote, and more than half the state voted for Prop 8, are there any businesses that you can patronize? Looking at you from the other side, your stand appears to have removed you from our economy.

By: Rory

Rory — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:00:47 +0000

I for one feel I should make an extra large donation to those who support prop 8. From the images, both still and video which show exactly who is intolerant and the facist rantings [sic] from the GLTB confirm it. You see it’s ok for them to protest, beat people up, vandalize and terrorize people who happen to think prop 8 is good because those folks are all racists, bigots anyway. The GLTB community can’t stand it when someone doesn’t accept the sexual behaviour they practice and they practice there own form of bigotry and facism against those who promote prop 8 and yet if we went out into the streets and did to them what they do they would be screaming bloody murder. I support prop 8 just because of the actions of the GLTB community after the MAJORITY of the populace [sic] decided what they wanted marrige [sic] to be.

By: Julia

Julia — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:44:04 +0000

As a straight person in California who thinks its appalling that there could even be a vote to take away people’s rights, I thank people for pointing out where to boycott. I would support boycotting all businesses and individuals who supported prop 8. They have the right to donate their money as they want, and I have the right to spend my money only on businesses I want to succeed, lead by people I can respect.

By: manaen

manaen — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:33:21 +0000

My fiancee and I ate at El Coyote for the first time Monday night. The place was busy but we were able to talk with several of the staff members. They’re united in supporting Marjorie’s rights. Marjorie sat and talked with us for about 20 minutes — turns out that she and my fiancee are members of the same LDS ward.
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Some of the things that she told us are:
> SHE HAS NO OWNERSHIP OF THE RESTAURANT; SHE IS AN EMPLOYEE. She seemed surprised that people said she’s part-owner — didn’t anyone ask her before creating this brouhaha? I don’t see how this has anything to do with her rights to believe, think, vote, and donate as she chooses but some of her opponents seemed to believe that her supposed ownership mattered.
> The business has not and will not make any politically-oriented donations. It has/does/will make non-political charitable and community donations for counseling, welfare, etc. that include help to the homosexual community – similar to help from LDS Relief Services that comes without questions about recipients’ political/gender orientation. The contribution mentioned by the male employee in the video of last Thursday’s meeting comprised personal donations from some of the employees; none of the funds came from the business. Talking with her convinced me that this co-worker was in error when he said she’d retract her donation if she could.
> One of their managers has been with the restaurant for 50 years. Other employees have been there 20-30 years. The staff, like the neighborhood, is a mixture of homosexuals and heterosexuals. All are attentive, polite, and rallying around Marjorie. Nearly 100 people depend upon El Coyote for their paychecks.
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After talking with Marjorie, we decided to make El Coyote one of our regular stops. I would that all of us outsiders follow the example of El Coyote’s staff and come together there in peace.

By: tryongoldengate

tryongoldengate — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:00:15 +0000

I’m not a supporter or an opponent, but a Christian observer wondering what position I would take if I was back in California.

At this point in my spiritual walk (I have a lot of growing to do), I know this:
- As a Christian, I’m called to care how everyone lives, not in a nosy sense, but in an “on guard in case you need my help” way. To be a true friend and fellow traveler on my Christian journey. To love one another.
- I don’t want to deny a person his or her right to happiness. Happiness is often broadly defined with conflicting notions — spiritual v. temporal forms of joy.
- With that said, I crack open the Bible and Christ says that narrow is the gate (Matthew 7 13-14). If that’s the case, then most of us are done for. Often I hear that when we sin, and I mean Christians as well, of course, that it’s a matter of not walking with God. It’s a matter of discipleship. It can take the form of hating one another, tearing one another down, but it can also take the form of cowardice on my part for not speaking up when I witness sin. Anyway, it’s an enormously complex issue for me, and I hope to reach a point where I can better understand God, His will, and how I can love others. That will come from my walk with God and not dictates by others with their own agendas — be they pastors or activists.

I know I didn’t reach any real conclusions. I’m just trying to illustrate how it’s a real internal struggle for many of us.

By: Molly

Molly — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:27:01 +0000

Lee,

I was at the Mormon temple rally. I have been documenting the events and have video and photos of the events and a lot of the signs.

It would seem that the folks calling the GLBT community out on intolerance, in my opinion as a form of red herring, have not and have never even been to a rally. They would rather preach, blame and name-call from behind the anonymity of their computer. Leaders of the ‘Yes’ campaign go on TV and throw out this nonsense about the “N” word being used and us turning on the Black community and it is becoming absurd.

You know Lee, mob mentality goes both ways. Just as there are extremes on the Yes side, there are also some on the No side, it is just a fact of life. I can only speak from my experience and considering I have gone many of the protests since the passage of 8 – I think I have a very good idea of the atmosphere and I am not aware of any riots, graffiti, or signage that would draw concern.

Further, lets not forget that it is the GLBT community that has been stripped of rights, and yes there is anger and frustration. I think on the whole our community has shown restraint and grace in a time of confusion and much emotion.

Last, I am just wondering, and I hope that some of you “yes” folks can chime in on this, but why are you so concerned with how I live my life? No matter what you do OR how you vote OR what you think, you can not erase us.

By: lee

lee — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:50:13 +0000

molly,

i don’t know what rallies you’ve been to, but have you seen the signs and video footage of the LA temple protest/riot?
did you see the graffiti on the temple wall?

did you see what happened the the christian group in san francisco?

go margie. good for her. if i had been there i would have helped her stand up a little straighter.

there is nothing wrong with boycotting businesses that have made statements or donated to causes you disagree– but it’s just mean and vindictive to go after a whole business because of one person’s donation. and not very smart for the cause. it just exposes the mob mentality.

By: Marie

Marie — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:11:30 +0000

Shame on you hypocrites. You took her money, love and support. You claim to want peace and justice. Where is her right to do as she feels is right? She gave far more to you and your community than she gave to Prop. 8. I say let all you immoral fools go and boycott her and her restaurant. The right always comes out and the wrong will continue to fail.

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By: Jacq.

Jacq. — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:00:09 +0000

I am very much in line with what Eric posted early on. And I feel, after reading many of the other posts, needs to be revisited…
Eric writes:
“…Marjorie Christofferson is apparently not actually the owner of El Coyote. She is a manager and a part of the family that owns the restaurant, but she is not the owner. Her mother is. She is the only mormon in the family. Her husband is not mormon either. The staff and the family apparently does not share her personal stance associated with Christofferson’s religious views. She alone made that contribution. She didn’t ask them about it first. They found out about it when we did. The employees are just as devastated as we are.”

If that is true, if Christofferson in not the owner, then where do we go from here? This woman’s donation, albeit ignorant, is her right – just as it is our right to disagree. But what are we boycotting here – a lone woman? Or the establishement she works for but does not own? Yes, I understand it may be a family owned business but would you want your father/mother/sister/brother’s establishment boycotted simply because you worked there and made a donation to, say, Obama’s campaign?

Eric continues: “How would your views change if you knew one of those very same gay couples who got married, actually works there at El Coyote? Well they do. So boycotting that restaurant would also harm one of those couples. Not to mention the large number of gay people who actually work there.”

As I was reading one of the many posts that followed, I was particularly offended by a comment Mark at the Beach posted: “I feel sorry for the 89 people and their families that work at the restaurant, but they will find other jobs.”

Mark! COME ON!! They will find other jobs??! Really, in this recession?! You honestly believe that? – Sounds like to me you don’t feel sorry for them or their families at all. You sound deluded and want to make yourself feel better for wishing El Coyote to go down in flames. And also, Mark at the Beach, does it bother you at all that some fo those 89 people working there are married gay couples trying to make a living?

By: SGT Ted

SGT Ted — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:37:53 +0000

Do gays really want to go down the “rule by the mob” road? Your self assumed moral authority is not supported by the law. Your next step is the Courts, not mau-mauing and intimidating your opponents. Your violence tinged and intimidate by the mob “Mormom bashing” could very well bring a backlash of violent gay bashing. “Tolerance” is a two way street. You might start practicing what you preach.

By: joeballz

joeballz — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:22:28 +0000

The majority rules. Get over it feminucci’s. I’ll say it like it is, most people are disgusted with your perverted way of life. You cupcakes expect people to be tolerant of your way of life? Learn to respect how MOST people feel about your way of life. Pathetic! Every single one of you are pathetic.

By: Will

Will — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:26:03 +0000

I’m uneasy with the LBGT community singling out mormons, when clearly the majority of californians agree that the definition of marriage should not be changed.
Honestly, this smacks of religious bigotry. Where are the boycotts of the thousands of black and latino and catholic restaurant owners who support traditional marriage?

Those whose style themselves as oppressed and victims of bigotry become oppressors and religous bigots … sad. and ironic.